What is life like in hot conflict zones? What happens when a foreigner is kidnapped in the Middle East? How does the war economy work? Check out this conversation with author Daniel Levin. He is a lawyer turned arm conflict negotiator. In 2021, Daniel published a book called “Proof of Life: Twenty Days on the Hunt for a Missing Person in the Middle East.” Exceptionally well-connected in the Middle East through foundation work, Daniel is active in conflict zones and is often asked to help with missing people and hostage negotiation. This intense and suspenseful book is about the search for an American named Paul. Daniel draws on deep historical and personal perspectives in our far-ranging conversation. Join me for this inspiring story; it’s the best twenty-five minutes you’ll spend today.